Is 8 skill slots enough? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

pamelf · Nov 27, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

8 is perfect. Any more and people would get lazy. It enhances build creativity and helps with energy management. It means you have to prepare instead of just taking whatever the hell you want with you. The only thing that I would say is make one extra, separate skill slot for rez. It's a pain having to bring that and then have only 7 skills left.

arsie · Nov 27, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

If you ask other MMOs, 24 slots won't be enough.

The 8 slots is not about being enough. The 8 slot is about being a challenge, forcing you to decide, and is the cornerstone to GW strategic and tactical thinking.

Same reason for restricting Elites, restrictions of certain skills in effect on each character: one stance, one preparation, one weapon spell, etc.

If you want all your skills available to you at all times, and a health and energy bar 10x longer, and being able to spam potions, you're quite clearly playing the wrong game.

arsie · Nov 27, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05

A simple solution for not bringing a rez in a Pug: Always die first so noone ever finds out.

V A R D A R · Nov 27, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I guess you guys are right I am content with 8 skills but I have played with many people who think the 10 might work not an infinate number.

Olim Chill · Nov 27, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39

I think it's just right.

Painbringer · Nov 27, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Do you use your eight to there full potential?

Eight is the balanced set for the game only thing I could see would be using a 9th spot for a rez sig and rez sig only

notskorn · Nov 27, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27

8 is fine for PvP but they could make it unlimited for PvE and it wouldn't make much difference

Biostem · Nov 27, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

I think a better question would be, "are all skills equally worth their place on your skill bar", to which the answer is a sorrowful "no".

Quaker · Nov 27, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Is 8 pawns really enough? Would Chess be better with 10 or 12? Or could we learn to play within the limitations? Questions, always questions.... answers, not so much....

Woop Shotty · Nov 28, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Vote 12 slots for PvE /sign /pass

A la Cartman, "schweet.."

What Now · Nov 28, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Ive always thought 8 was a push, 9 would be perfect, 9th being reserved for your elite skill.....thats just my opinion..

Isileth · Nov 28, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by What Now

Ive always thought 9 was a push, 10 would be perfect, 10th being reserved for your elite skill.....thats just my opinion..

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Originally Posted by What Now

Ive always thought 10 was a push, 11 would be perfect, 11th being reserved for your elite skill.....thats just my opinion..

It will always be like this, im sure everyone has been in the situation where they try out a new build and think "If only I could have 1 more skill it would be perfect".

But GW is balanced around 8 skills, once you start being able to take more you can start to bring a counter for everything, a cover for every weakness.

You have to focus your build on set roles, its a team game. Using the rest of your team you can each cover different roles.

Nemo the Capitalist · Nov 28, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11

i personally think we need 50 buttons V A D A R...would make the game irrevalent and confusing

HawkofStorms · Nov 28, 2007, 03:40 AM // 03:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isileth

It will always be like this, im sure everyone has been in the situation where they try out a new build and think "If only I could have 1 more skill it would be perfect".

But GW is balanced around 8 skills, once you start being able to take more you can start to bring a counter for everything, a cover for every weakness.

You have to focus your build on set roles, its a team game. Using the rest of your team you can each cover different roles.

Exactly. It would be power creep. If you give 9 slots, then people will want 10. Same reason why a.net doesn't increse storage that often. If they gave everybody an extra 5 storage slots, people would complain about how they filled those and need another 15.

Rothaga · Nov 28, 2007, 04:50 AM // 04:50

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Originally Posted by arsie

A simple solution for not bringing a rez in a Pug: Always die first so noone ever finds out.

I like it.

8 is fine, I can barely get my fingers across all the numbers to use all my skills anyways.

Biostem · Nov 28, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Another possibility would be able to have, say, 2 power trays that you can switch between during normal play. As a caveat to this, have switching the trays cancel any enchantments/hexes/summoned minions you might already have out. I'm not sure how I'd handle pets w/ this. You could add a cooldown timer for switching trays so as to prevent it form just becoming a 16 skill bar...

sagilltwins · Nov 28, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33

8 slots are fine but if you want more then we would need a lot more health and energy...

Tutis Evito · Nov 28, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Its 8 slots as you have 8 fingers ( 4 on each hand) and GW skills are suppoesdly rings on each finger that you touch to activate as a 'hero' So unless they have skills thats rings fits on thumbs....

Drakken Breathes Fire · Nov 28, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

Considering that in pve NM most can survive with 3-5 skills out of 8?
Yes, 8 is plenty.

Earth · Nov 28, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

This has been beaten to death a few times already, and most people agree that it is enough. Closed.

Nov 27, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03	#21
pamelf Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe] Profession: Me/Mo	8 is perfect. Any more and people would get lazy. It enhances build creativity and helps with energy management. It means you have to prepare instead of just taking whatever the hell you want with you. The only thing that I would say is make one extra, separate skill slot for rez. It's a pain having to bring that and then have only 7 skills left.

Nov 27, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03	#22
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	If you ask other MMOs, 24 slots won't be enough. The 8 slots is not about being enough. The 8 slot is about being a challenge, forcing you to decide, and is the cornerstone to GW strategic and tactical thinking. Same reason for restricting Elites, restrictions of certain skills in effect on each character: one stance, one preparation, one weapon spell, etc. If you want all your skills available to you at all times, and a health and energy bar 10x longer, and being able to spam potions, you're quite clearly playing the wrong game.

Nov 27, 2007, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#23
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	A simple solution for not bringing a rez in a Pug: Always die first so noone ever finds out.

Nov 27, 2007, 09:36 PM // 21:36	#24
V A R D A R Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Michigan Guild: The Saint Of War Profession: P/	I guess you guys are right I am content with 8 skills but I have played with many people who think the 10 might work not an infinate number.

Nov 27, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39	#25
Olim Chill Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Guild: DMI Profession: N/	I think it's just right.

Nov 27, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47	#26
Painbringer Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota Guild: Black Widows of Death Profession: W/Mo	Do you use your eight to there full potential? Eight is the balanced set for the game only thing I could see would be using a 9th spot for a rez sig and rez sig only

Nov 27, 2007, 11:27 PM // 23:27	#27
notskorn Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Clan Roxor Profession: W/E	8 is fine for PvP but they could make it unlimited for PvE and it wouldn't make much difference

Nov 27, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42	#28
Biostem Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007	I think a better question would be, "are all skills equally worth their place on your skill bar", to which the answer is a sorrowful "no".

Nov 27, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53	#29
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	Is 8 pawns really enough? Would Chess be better with 10 or 12? Or could we learn to play within the limitations? Questions, always questions.... answers, not so much....

Nov 28, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#30
Woop Shotty Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2006 Guild: Ruthless Mafia [RM] Profession: Mo/	Vote 12 slots for PvE /sign /pass A la Cartman, "schweet.."

Nov 28, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28	#31
What Now Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2007	Ive always thought 8 was a push, 9 would be perfect, 9th being reserved for your elite skill.....thats just my opinion..

Nov 28, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11	#33
Nemo the Capitalist Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Trust me you dont want to know my Chasms of Despair Guild: Zaishen Brotherhood Profession: N/Me	i personally think we need 50 buttons V A D A R...would make the game irrevalent and confusing

Nov 28, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05	#36
Biostem Jungle Guide Join Date: Oct 2007	Another possibility would be able to have, say, 2 power trays that you can switch between during normal play. As a caveat to this, have switching the trays cancel any enchantments/hexes/summoned minions you might already have out. I'm not sure how I'd handle pets w/ this. You could add a cooldown timer for switching trays so as to prevent it form just becoming a 16 skill bar...

Nov 28, 2007, 06:33 AM // 06:33	#37
sagilltwins Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Your Mom's House Guild: 香港,poke, mad, BECK, nH Profession: A/W	8 slots are fine but if you want more then we would need a lot more health and energy...

Nov 28, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26	#38
Tutis Evito Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: England,UK Guild: Incredible Edible Bookah [YUM] Profession: R/	Its 8 slots as you have 8 fingers ( 4 on each hand) and GW skills are suppoesdly rings on each finger that you touch to activate as a 'hero' So unless they have skills thats rings fits on thumbs....

Nov 28, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29	#39
Drakken Breathes Fire Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: They May Be Dead [DEAD] Profession: N/	Considering that in pve NM most can survive with 3-5 skills out of 8? Yes, 8 is plenty.

Nov 28, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15	#40
Earth Always Outnumbered Join Date: Jul 2006	This has been beaten to death a few times already, and most people agree that it is enough. Closed.